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“Hey, what do you do when someone approaches your car?”

10/11/2016

21 Comments

 
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Note the body language as I am approaching the vehicle, leaning into the open window (which is open just to reduce glare for the picture). Preferably, keep the windows up if someone is approaching.
Girlfriend: “Hey, what do you do when you’re at a stoplight and someone approaches your car?”

Me: (sigh, preparing to enter lecture mode) “What happened?”

Girlfriend: “A guy came up and started knocking on my window, pointing at his wrist like he was asking for the time when I was at a stoplight.”

Me: “OK… what’d you do?”

Girlfriend: “I shrugged my shoulders & shook my head like I didn’t know what he was talking about.  He wanted me to roll down the window but I didn’t.  He stayed there & kept knocking but I just kept acting confused until the light turned green and I could go, even though I was wearing a watch & my phone was in plain sight.”

Me:  “Nice!  That’s awesome!”

Dealing with an unknown pedestrian approaching your car when you are in or transitioning into it:

What I particularly dislike is when individuals do this type of approach when you have the least amount of mobility, as you are entering your car.   I just find it sketchy and I do not engage with them or care what they are asking for. 
As a guy, it’s probably just that they are asking for money, for a girl you could add to that option the possibility of sexual interest, either way: car door shuts, doors lock, windows up, safely get/continue moving.

I’m not waiting around to allow an unnecessary encounter that could be a setup for an attack, and I’m not going to take money out in front of someone I do not know.  There are plenty of good ways to help people in need that can be done without fixating on your money by digging through your wallet/purse in a stationary, seated, non-mobile configuration (car parked or stopped at a stoplight) in front of a stranger.

Making the message clear:

My body language make the message clear that I am not interested and not open to further communication as I safely make my exit.
 
My “NO, NOT INTERESTED” gift basket comes packed with the following items:
  • hand signal of no or not interested: shaking hand or finger
  • head shaking NO
  • clear lip-readable mouthing of the word NO
  • clear verbal articulation of the word “NO/ NO, I CAN’T”
  • not waiting around for rebuttals or a continued approach

​The way I look at this, if you include the verbal and non-verbal ways I have communicated, I have said NO four times. If someone persists after four clear messages of NO when you are in a mobility compromised position, be prepared to take action, verbal escalation or even physical action could be required depending on the circumstances and what has developed.

If the person persists, well, usually my car is in careful motion so that it does not matter.  It is much harder to get robbed, assaulted or carjacked if your car is moving. If I am not in-action yet, I am ready to escalate or enforce my personal space boundaries- if breached, and make my message very clear.

There are a few incontrovertible rules of self defense.  One of them is to avoid interacting with approaching strangers when you are in a vulnerable position; being seated and strapped into a vehicle puts you at risk.  Rolling down your window and engaging heightens the risk exponentially.  When I get in my car, my goal is to get from Point A to Point B as safely as possible.  No texting and no striking up conversations with people at stoplights or loiterers in parking lots.  You have nothing to gain from these encounters; it’s just not worth the risk.

Train smart & be safe! 
​
Evan Dzierzynski
Owner/Lead Coach
NOVA Self Defense
​www.novaselfdefense.com
21 Comments
Alien
10/23/2016 12:46:36 pm

2 things that will help: When stopping in traffic leave 3/4 car length between you and the car in front. That provides room to turn the wheel and drive around that car. Which requires: 2) Being in the curb or median lane when you stop; you can climb the curb and go down the sidewalk, or go down the median (or cross the median) to get away, if necessary. Curb or median lane is not always possible, but stopping in the center lane traps you.

And, it goes without saying in traffic pay attention and don't focus on your phone.

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Ken Curtis
1/13/2017 05:28:25 pm

Ideally, one should leave 15 feet between cars. This allows movement around the stopped car in front of you. Plus, an added benefit, if you get rear ended, you have a 'cushion' of not ramming the vehicle sitting in front of you.

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Gee
1/13/2017 02:48:46 pm

Any tips for mothers with a car full of children during these unnerving incidents?

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Evan NOVA Self Defense link
1/13/2017 04:09:45 pm

Gee- the fundamentals of this do not change in that you do not engage, unlock doors or roll down windows (if in your car). If not in your car, just know that when your kids are with you the stakes are much higher and you might need to take action immediately!

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defense expert
1/15/2017 02:31:22 pm

none of the following should be considerd legal advice nor use of force advice. you should contact all relevant authorities and lawyers before even thinking about doing or suggesting to others to follow the below information:

legally obtain a handgun and receive professional training. make sure it is legal to keep a loaded gun in your car and have it loaded and ready at all times. have your children taught gun safety. get a concealed carry permit. receive professional training in legal use of force. stay alert. read the above disclaimer.

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Roderick
9/25/2019 12:05:21 am

And carry your gun on your person not your purse or glove box !!! It is more under YOUR control on your person and you know where it is !!! Someone steals your purse they have everything you keep there !!! Your keys, your wallet and your gun !!! Think about this !!! There are a couple of cases where a gun was in a purse in a shopping cart with a child and the child go in the purse and shot his mother !!! A gun that is on you is better, under your control !!!

D
1/13/2017 03:53:08 pm

I keep my hand on my. 45

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Eve
1/13/2017 07:47:32 pm

Gee, if your kids are in the car. Follow the above. If you are getting your kids in, be aware of your surroundings, Do not be scared to say loudly NO! MOVE BACK! (carry on your person) You can always push your child into the car for his/her protection. I always drove a van..Got in, locked doors then put kids in seats. and drove away...

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Ken
1/14/2017 01:29:52 am

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James Leonard
1/14/2017 01:53:57 am

I will ignore someone that approaches, if possible, but will tell them to stop before they get near me if I'm outside the car, such as pumping gas, etc. I'll also have my hand on my .45acp sidearm, and be prepared to use it.

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Miriam
1/14/2017 05:47:05 am

What really gets me is when they approach you outside of your car, getting in or having just exited your car. Recently a man approached me after I had exited my car as I was approaching my house. Puts you in a very vulnerable position. I'm not allowed to carry at work so I was not armed either.

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RB
1/14/2017 08:59:40 pm

I work in sales so this has happened to me a few times while sitting in my car in a parking lot, windows up. The first option I used was backing up to get away from the individual banging on my window. The second time I motioned for the person to stop where they were and not to come any closer as I saw them approaching my car. If neither of these options work and the person persisted, I would lay my weapon on my lap in plain sight of the person banging on my window and tell them I will give them a head start.

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estuar
4/4/2017 11:13:41 pm

also remember, in line at Starbucks or any food drive through.... you are TRAPPED! Bad guys know this, ALWAYS leave room to jet out!!

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Randy
10/14/2017 10:16:18 pm

I heard no one suggest this. Blow your horn and keep blowing it. Bring attention to this person and they will leave. Don't just toot it, lean on it until he leaves.

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Hi
11/16/2018 12:00:25 am

Im a woman and another woman tried to stop me today. She gestured at me to stop (I was at a stop sign) and when I made eye contact, and pointed at her wrist. I was in a shady part of town, so I did not respond. I wonder if she really needed the time or if she was trying something. This is not the first time someone has approached me for rides in this area.

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GD Crawford
3/26/2019 08:52:27 am

When approaching or facing your car, learn to watch the reflection in the windows for movement behind you.

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Bridget D. Gatewood
7/23/2022 01:12:49 pm

What should you do if a person approaches your car window with a gun and tell you to get out? They are carjacking and killing people in Baltimore, Maryland even if you give them the car.

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Jane
10/27/2022 02:26:08 pm

Sad that we have whole blogs on how to protect ourselves from violent men who bang on our windshields instead of taking a hint. Gosh, I despise men (99.9999999999 percent)

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auto deals link
4/27/2023 01:55:01 am

Great blog post! It's always important to be aware of your surroundings and take precautions when approached by strangers, especially when you're in your car. Your tips on staying calm, assessing the situation, and having a plan in place are spot on. It's also important to remember that there's no one-size-fits-all approach to dealing with these situations, and being able to adapt to the circumstances can make all the difference. Overall, this article provides valuable information that can help people stay safe and feel more confident when faced with unexpected encounters.




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William Sanders
8/9/2023 01:39:07 am

This is a growing problem here in Schenectady New York where random strangers will approach your car begging for money or something or a ride this is unacceptable. Especially approaching a car late at night at 10:00 a.m. screams not cool. And people should know better that you don't approach a stranger's car like that especially late at night. But this issue needs to be addressed because this is a problem that was caused by the government. It's a problem reaction solution thing. They cause a problem so we react to it and then they come up with a solution when they are the ones who caused the problem in the first place. I remember the time when Ronald Reagan was in office and one of the things that was very much talked about and educated to people was stranger danger. Now I understand we all get down on our luck we all do however when I was in the homeless shelter I never once stood out in the corner panhandling. I never approached strangers cars asking or begging for money. I knew that was wrong I knew better. So when I was in the homeless shelter and down on my luck I never ever asked for help from any stranger now that's not to say that I haven't asked for help from my friends and family members that's different those are people that I know and grew up with and are very familiar with. That's different however I will not ever no matter how many times I'm down on my luck will ever ask a stranger for anything I will never ask or approach a stranger's car just because I'm down on my luck. If I need help I always know I could reach out to my friends and family and or people who are counselors of me. But people should know better than to approach a stranger's car like that especially 10:00 at night. What do you think the person in the car sitting in there is thinking. Because that person sitting in the car does not know you have a weapon does not know your intentions doesn't know anything. So if you're in the car and someone approaches your car don't interact. You're likely putting yourself in an unsafe situation. And don't count on the government to protect you either and don't count on them to keep you safe. They failed me in keeping me safe otherwise I wouldn't have strangers approaching my car when I'm taking care of business and trying to take care of my family so that just goes to show you the government does not give a rat's ass about my safety. Because if they did random strangers would not be approaching my car and police officers would be cracking down on this. We should all feel safe in our vehicles we should never feel uncomfortable we have the right to say no. And keep in mind I never asked anyone to approach my vehicle they approached me without my permission and without asking me or any of that. If they need help they need to seek the proper help from the proper professionals I am in no position to help them I can't even help myself and as a matter of fact my government which we all seem to put our trust in which I think is a mistake our responsible for why I'm in a situation where I'm living in poverty now where I used to be middle class the government is responsible for destroying the middle class and those people on the street is the government's responsibility too because they caused that too

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PALAK link
12/31/2023 09:18:30 am

nice information

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